May 19 Meeting Notes

June 4th, 2009 by libraricat

Six, or possibly seven, of us attended the May 19, 2009 meeting. Six or seven of us and a ridiculous amount of food.

We plan to continue meeting throughout the summer, since those of us at the meeting were interested in doing so, and also to have two online write-ins a month this summer.

The next Freddy Words meeting is Saturday, June 6, from 1:00-3:00 p.m.

Our dialogue workshop will be held Sunday, June 7, from 1:00-5:00 p.m. If you are attending, please bring a writing sample featuring dialogue, approximately 1 1/2 pages double-spaced, for people to read out loud. You will need to bring enough copies for everyone, so that’s probably about twelve. I am supposed to bring highlighters, so if I show up without them, you have permission to chide me.

A memoir-writing workshop is tentatively planned for Labour Day weekend.

We are considering organizing a day-long writing retreat the first weekend in November. It would be at a cottage in New Maryland, and would cost about $30 per person, plus food and snacks to share, potluck-style. (People seemed to like the potluck option better than everyone bringing their own meal.) There would be much writing, word wars, and maybe an activity or two. It would be geared toward NaNoWriMo participants, although Freddy Words members who aren’t doing NaNo but are interested in the retreat would be welcome, too. There are no firm plans yet because we don’t know if enough people will be interested.

Jarod will be responsible for adding events to the website calendar, so make sure you notify him about all Freddy Words events that are planned. Jarod suggested that one person should take care of this and then actually offered to be that person. Go, Jarod!

Other topics discussed included future social events, lesbian rat sex (note: this is not related to the future social events), Alternative Lifestyle Ken doll, 50,000 words about Addison’s neck, disturbing fanfic, the previous night’s online write-in, and the mysterious workings of BattleJesus. Oh, and Star Trek. Always Star Trek.

Furthermore, as a direct result of this meeting, we learned what happens when you leave a Ziploc bag of Gummi Bears in a car all day when it is 32°C out. They meld with the bag to form a blob of gel, is what happens.

Action items from the last few meetings

May 15th, 2009 by writerly

Since notes haven’t been posted for meetings lately (what’s up with that?) I thought I’d go through my own notes and post some decisions that we made about upcoming events, etc, so that we can stay on track.

- Our Freddy Words-only dialogue workshop is Sunday, June 7 from 1-5 p.m. Email writerwithoutborders@gmail.com to RSVP. We have 5 RSVPs and 7 spots left!

- There will be a Freddy Words-only memoir workshop on labour day weekend in September. Let me know if you want to go but the weekend is bad for you.

- We’re thinking of having a travel writing workshop at some point. Let me know if you have any ideas for it, or know someone who could lead it.

- We’re changing the date of our King’s Landing trip to a Saturday in late July. Let me know if you have a preference for dates.

- Looks like I’ll be having a Canada Day party of some kind. You’re all invited!

- We also have more social events planned: a BBQ on the North Side, and a Mario Party evening. Someone also suggested karaoke at a bar, perhaps Gordie’s Pub. Those of you who are hosting/organizing – decide on dates and add them to the calendar!

- We decided that the mailing list will only be for active Freddy Words members. (Active can mean having attended one meeting, or active with us online, but that we know you and you participate in some way.)

That’s all I have in my notes. Please comment if you have action items from your own notes (or memory) that you want to add.

Meeting notes for March 17 (and Feb. 17)

March 30th, 2009 by writerly

Ten people were in attendance for this St. Paddy’s Day meeting. We very much had a party atmosphere, with green drinks and green food (including green wine and greenish popcorn!).

We asked if everyone at the meeting was on the mailing list (our main way of communicating and planning meetings), and a few people still weren’t. They have since joined and are receiving mailings, though, so hopefully all active members are now on the mailing list!

We discussed the last editing workshop in depth. We agreed that the feedback we got from “speed editing” was very helpful. It was really interesting to get 10 different people to edit the same two pages – some feedback was contradictory and thus confusing, but most was very useful – it was clear when everyone agreed a change was needed, but also it was interesting to see when some people disliked a scene or phrase and other people loved it.

Everyone was very eager to do speed editing again, and soon, so our next meeting (April 4) will be an in-house Freddy Words-only speed editing afternoon. People were also really excited about holding more workshops in general. We brainstormed a number of topics (see below). We decided on a date for the Dialogue workshop (June 7), which will be led by Raine and a partner. There is also a live storytelling workshop being planned by Susan that will happen sometime in May.

At this point, some people had to leave, but the rest of us stayed to read a piece of our writing. Mostly people read their writing sample from the editing workshop, often with the revisions already incorporated. It was neat to see what people changed and left the same, and all the pieces were definitely strengthened by the exercise!

The next meeting is this Saturday, April 4 at 1 p.m. Please email freddywords@gmail.com to RSVP.

***
Our brainstormed ideas for future workshops:

- Action
- Horror/Suspense
- Scifi/Paranormal/Speculative Fiction
- Getting Published
- Poetry: how to write it better
- Poetry: different types
- Publishing Poetry
- Memoir/Creative Non-Fiction
- Young Adult Fiction
- Brainstorming/Developing a plot before writing
- The above topics with guest speakers
***

Meeting notes for Feb. 17

No notes were posted for our Feb. 17 meeting, so here’s a brief recap from my own notes: Ten people attended our first meeting at Triniteas for an informal poetry reading. We each stood up at our table and read a poem – either by us or someone else. It was a neat experience, and Triniteas was a great venue, so we will have to do this again at some point!

We decided to join the Writer’s Federation of New Brunswick. Ten people committed to paying $5 each to join; however one person had to back out for personal reasons, so we still need a final contribution of $5, preferably from someone who hasn’t contributed yet. Please email freddywords@gmail.com if you haven’t yet contributed so we can make arrangements. Thank you!

This meeting inspired me to start up our Freddy Words poetry group again. See the calendar for dates!

Minutes for Meeting March 7

March 12th, 2009 by Susan

Ha!  You are stuck with my version of the meeting notes!

There were six people in attendance and some yummy cookies and garlic fingers!

Upcoming events:

  • March 15 – Editing woorkshop Doodles 1-5pm  Please try to be there 15 min early for attendance.
  • March 17 – Meeting!  Read the stuff you edited.
  • March 20 – Post editing party! Bring drinks and snacks! 7pm!  Contact me for location
  • March 22 – Online Write In

February’s Online Write In was considered a success.   People were energized in their writting

Writerly brought in some publications of note. Nonymous is a new magazine available at Westminster Books and Renu Boutique.  They are looking for submissions.  Breadcrumb Scabs is a free online magazine.

Odd Sundays, a poetry reading series, will be meeting March 15 at Molly’s.

The “Write a really long sentence” excercise had some excellent results.

We also decided to write a collaborative novel.  Everyone will be responsible for one chapter.  Due tuesday, the character studies.

Susan

The really long sentence challenge

February 26th, 2009 by sassenach

I have started my rough draft of the really long sentence, and I am having a lot of fun writing it.  I am keeping my topic a secret for now, it will be revealed at the meeting, so I hope I can make it.

Is anyone else making progress at the really long sentence?

Meeting Mintutes: Feb. 7, 2009

February 12th, 2009 by writerly

Welcome to our new leader, Susan. Thank you for all your hard work, Vivian! (We decided to forgo the election, as Vivian happily and peacefully gave up her special Freddy Words powers to Susan.)

We had 9 members at this meeting, 3 new. Yay, new members! We had a few announcements: There will be an online write-in on Sunday, Feb. 22 at 7 p.m We will also be holding a follow-up editing workshop on Sunday, March 15 at 1 p.m. Check our calendar for more information on both events.

We also decided to have two special Freddy Words meetings: 1) A post-editing workshop meeting/party where we will discuss and share what we learned with other Freddy Words members. This will be held about a week after the March 15 workshop at a private home we’ve never been to before! 2) A Friday night or Saturday afternoon meeting where we will learn more about how to use this website more fully. We will be at UNB in a room with a white board! *geeks out*

Susan announced the results of the survey. I did not take notes, so you will have to talk to Susan if you’re curious, but the highlights are: Everyone is pretty much happy with the way we’re doing things now. There is interest in more social events, and people suggested other events we could have – like field trips! But not to the public library.  People seemed to like the suggestion from last meeting that our mandate be “Writers Helping Writers,” though people helpfully added that it could say, “Writers Helping Writers Write” and “Writers Helping Writers Write, Right?” (That was very hard to type out.)

We decided to have an informal poetry reading in a public venue (Triniteas downtown) for our next scheduled Freddy Words meeting. (We considered holding it separately, but we’re just SO ACTIVE at the moment that combining it with our next meeting made much more sense.) Please bring a poem to read – it can be yours or somebody else’s. We will have a quick meeting at the beginning before the reading. IMPORTANT NOTE: The meeting time has been changed to suit Triniteas’ hours, so it will be from 6-8 p.m.

One member suggested that anyone who is interested should consider joining the Fredericton Science Fiction Society (with which we’re affiliated). They have fun events throughout the year (pot lucks, BBQs) and apparently do a lot of role-playing. You can find out more information here.

Oh! One announcement I almost forgot about (geez, we had a lot of announcements): March is National Novel Editing Month. I am happy to unofficially organize local events if there are enough people interested. We are coordinating a critical mass here on Facebook. (Email writerwithoutborders@gmail.com for more info if you are not Facebook-afflicted.)

ONE MORE THING: We discussed Twilight. A lot. Oh, the lulz. The meeting also devolved into a mini-party that the hostess was happy to let go on for way longer than she expected. It was fun, and we must do it again soon. Long live the sparklies!

Meeting Minutes: Jan. 20, 2009

February 12th, 2009 by writerly

We had a good crowd at this meeting (7 members in total, 3 new). We discussed the results of the editing workshop we held the week before; everyone agreed it was a great success. There was spirited discussion between people of varied backgrounds and in different places in their careers, which really enriched the discussion. Since Freddy Words is starting to get some publicity, we decided to start announcing whether our events would be “open” or “closed”: closed meaning that only people who register can attend, and open meaning everyone is welcome. We will try to have some open events soon. We discussed the possibility of having a poetry reading as an open event.

Susan and Vivian announced that the survey was ready. We want to see how Freddy Words is working for our members and if there are things we could do more or less of. (Note: We have announced the results now, but you can still take it here.)

We briefly discussed what our mandate should be, and whether we should have a(n informal) constitution. People can express their thoughts on the survey, but we agreed that the mandate should be something like “writers helping writers” and that we’re for “intermediate writers” (not beginners, not professionals) who want to take their writing to the next level, whatever that is.

We discussed other ideas for workshops, including one that was suggested at the editing workshop: a workshop on dialogue. Susan and I said we would be happy to organize t event itself if someone else would lead the discussion and any exercises, and Raine volunteered. So we have a possible upcoming workshop. Thanks Raine!

Susan asked how we can get more out of this website. Someone suggested that the sidebar could be better organized. Susan said she’d like to add a review section, where we can suggest books and computer programs we like (and something else, but I’m forgetting!).

It was decided that we would have an election for leader next meeting, since Vivian would like to step down. Susan said she would run if no one else was interested.

Survey

February 3rd, 2009 by Vivian

Our survey is now up. Please fill it out if you haven’t already, so that Freddy Words can serve you better. Thank you.

Meeting Results

January 13th, 2009 by Vivian

Following a stretch of low attendance during the holiday season, I was very happy with the turnout at the last meeting (Jan. 3). We were five people, including one person attending for the first time.

Since most of us had participated in National Novel Writing Month (NaNoWriMo) this year, and all of us had worked on novels at some point, we started out discussing novel-writing: how we felt about our latest novels, and how to whip our rough drafts into shape. We will be getting into this issue more deeply at our upcoming workshop: I Wrote a Novel. Now What?

One question that came up was: is NaNoWriMo a good and useful technique for someone with serious aspirations toward becoming a novelist and getting published? We decided that NaNoWriMo is best as an introduction to novel-writing, and for producing short, light-hearted works. For longer, more serious works, a longer timeframe and slower pace might work better. NaNoWriMo produces a very, very rough draft.

We then discussed survey questions. Our survey will be online soon. It will be an opportunity to get feedback on how well the group is currently working for members, and how we can improve it.

Since we had a good turnout, I finally got the chance to try The Secret Writing Exercise. Everyone wrote a secret on a piece of paper and put it in a hat. We each drew one secret, making sure it wasn’t our own.

Some people seemed uncomfortable with the exercise, and asked if we could write made-up secrets. We decided that we would say they were made-up, but it would be up to each person whether to write a made-up or genuine secret.

The next step is to write something using the secret extracted from the hat. These pieces of writing are due at the next meeting (Jan. 20th at Susan’s place).

Other topics covered in the meeting included talking cats, zombies (of course) and how long a vampire has to be Undead before he can go out in the sun without annhilating himself. We had a good time.

Non-Fiction Workshop

December 10th, 2008 by writerly

This fall I attended a non-fiction workshop put on by the Writers’ Federation of New Brunswick. It was a talk by Jacques Poitras, CBC journalist and the author of Beaverbrook: A Shattered Legacy and The Right Fight: Bernard Lord and the Conservative Dilemma.

Jacques Poitras said he’s used to talking to audiences about the content of his books, so he was excited to be able to talk to us about his process, his method for putting a non-fiction work together. He said that the Beaverbrook book was a very specific non-fiction book, since it was a journalistic work and was done under a tight deadline. Due to his role at the CBC, he needed to be balanced and not take a side strongly in the controversy he was covering. He writes 2,000 – 5,000 words a day for his job, so he was used to the pace of writing a lot very quickly. To write the book, Poitras took 3 months off of work without pay. Teaching a course at STU that semester (which took one day a week) helped, but his savings still took a big hit. He joked that having a wife who works full time helps.

He had a lot more time to write his first book (The Right Fight), and was able to prepare maps and outlines in the planning stages. For non-fiction you really need a plan or formula in order to get the story out – then you can add layers (beauty, meaning, lessons) as you edit it later. Poitras said his books have been relatively straight-forward to research and organize. With the Beaverbrook book, there was so much material so far away (in Britain!), he was thinking at first of writing it in the first person, like his own journey to find the truth. But, due to lack of time, it became easier to tell the story as it was.

He was really helped out in the research stage since both sides of the legal team agreed to share their research with him. So he was sent CDs of digitized research that he could go through at his leisure – hundreds of hours of research for free and at his fingertips! This made his job a lot easier.

Colour-coded system: Pierre Burton uses file cards to organize his writing – put a fact or quote on each card, put them in the proper order, and then start writing. Poitras had written all of his notes in notebooks, however, and couldn’t use that method. Instead, Poitras used colour highlighters. Ex. Green for chapter 7, pink for chapter 8, blue for chapter 9. Then he went though his notebooks and colour highlighted everything relevant to each chapter. Then when he sat down to write each chapter, he would go through the notebooks again looking for the correct colour in order to put together an outline for that chapter.

He also had a secret blog, which he shared with a few friends. Here he would write rough notes about what he found. He used references in the blog posts so he knew where it was in his notes.

As he wrote, he would make notes about facts he didn’t have (research he needed to do). Once he got those facts or did that research, he would plop them in to the appropriate place in the narrative outline. When he started writing the Beaverbrook book, he did NOT have the second half of the book, but started writing about Beaverbrook’s life since it was fresh in his mind. When he hit a spot where he didn’t know something, he could put that on his to-do list.

He treated each chapter as a separate story, with a beginning, middle, and end. Generally this was linear, with some time overlap which was dealt with in the text. For his book excerpt for the Telegraph Journal, he chose the chapter on Lady Beaverbrook – it was easy to do since it was a coherent story on her life.

When talking about an event, you must tell the story through a person. People move the story. You’re adapting the storytelling mode of fiction – keep the story focused and the action moving. If information (that can’t be told through a personal story) doesn’t fit, skip it; if important, deal with it briefly.

If an event is thrilling but your account of it isn’t, then your account is false. To show desperation and frenzy of an event, you must show this in the writing – in the sentences and flow.

When you write the last parts of your book, go back into the earlier parts and throw in hints of foreshadowing. These are bits of payoff for the reader.

The search for the proper protagonist: In The Right Fight, the protagonist was a concept, not a person. (The book wasn’t really about Bernard Lord, as the title claims; it was about the right-wing movement in New Brunswick generally.) In the Beaverbrook book, Beaverbrook was the protagonist for most of the book (until his death). It was difficult to decide on a protagonist for the last part, about the fighting over the collection at the Beaverbrook Art Gallery. The two sons both had compelling stories. Poitras initially thought he’d focus on the one son who had more of a, shall we say, dramatic persona in the media. But he ended up focusing on the other brother after interviewing him in Britain; there he was a compelling character and had many insightful things to say.

In the question period, one person asked about whether he used written permission forms for his interviews. Poitras responded that, per journalistic convention, if the person agrees to an interview, it is presumed that you will be using the material. Consent is implied and no written record is needed.

Another person asked about the length of his books, if he was clear how long they would be beforehand. Poitras said that his publisher asked for 80,000 words for his first book; he had 90,000 words in his first draft and ended up with 120,000 words, and the publisher didn’t cut it. For the Beaverbrook book, Poitras didn’t think he had enough material. He chose the number of chapters and divided  the length – after he wrote a chapter or two, he knew he would have enough. His final count for that book was 88,000 words.

He pitched his first book, and his publisher pitched the second. After his first book he wasn’t burning to do another, but after the second, he is burning – thinking he should take advantage of the attention he’s gotten for this book.

Someone else asked if he ever had bad writing days. He said that, since he had an outline, if he was having trouble writing, he would at least spit something out on the page; when he got his groove back, he could then shape what he’d written. He wasn’t sitting there with writer’s block.

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